?

Log in

No account? Create an account

Unabashed Spoiler Hound & Fanfic writer

Reveling in the fickle nature of fangirlishness

Previous Entry Share Next Entry
Sex and Violence: "We used to be in this together."
sophie_deangirl
 First, I have to say it, THANK GOODNESS FOR BOBBY!!!!  

Okay, I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED THIS EPISODE.  Don't get me wrong, it was hard to watch, hard to endure seeing our beloved brothers so at odds with each other, so disconnected, but it wasn't all together surprising. It broke open a floodgate already brimming with suppressed feelings that was destined to spill eventually  and in a strange way, it was a relief when it finally happened.  Not that there won't be yet another floodgate of repercussions to come, but now that it's out in the open it can be dealt with, however, sadly, to our disappointment, we already see our boys dealing with it in their characteristically harmful way, denial.  I will  forewarn you, this unrepentant DeanGirl was TOTALLY on Dean's side so be ready for a floodgate break here too.

I loved this episode less about the Siren, but more for the way the Siren allowed for all of the pent up anger and frustration that was just beneath the surface to be released.  We can blame the Siren for putting our boys into the trances they were in, but the words, feelings and issues were all Dean and Sam. They were lying in wait to be expressed like the proverbial powder keg waiting to blow.  Those feelings, sadly, were all true despite Sam's and Dean's attempts to blame it on the Siren's power...like before, they are, yet again, suppressing what they really feel. In Sam's case, it wasn't too different than when he had said just about the very same thing to Dean in Asylum. You can see the impact on their faces, both after Bobby saved them and later at the car.  They went back to their fall back, denying that anything they said was real, that they didn't mean it.  Again, sadly, we all know that they meant every word.

Okay, don't hit me Sam fans because I'm not saying that some of what Sam said wasn't true, that Sam's view of Dean holding him back isn't all together wrong, one can totally see that Dean's protectiveness of Sam might be viewed as suffocating, but from the perspective Sam was attacking Dean from was unfair. He was accusing Dean of being weak and using that as a way to justify the decisions  he was making. Sam can't blame Dean for his choices and it certainly was frightening to hear Sam say that he was a better hunter because it wasn't said from a purely competitive angle.  You knew that Sam meant much more than just the simple words he was saying.  There was this edge to it as if to say that he could "squash" Dean like a bug.

I thought that Sam was acting like someone who was slowly turning dark.  The look on Jared's face was ominous and  almost evil.  He played it perfectly scary for me and the contrast from that scene to the scene at the car, his face full of regret and innocence, you can't help, but see the warring sides of Sam battling. There are two sides to Sam. Jared did this with amazing ease.

Dean was attacking Sam for not being the Sam he knew and to a point that's unfair, we all grow up and change, it happens.  Sam can't realistically stay the little brother that Dean has protected all his life, but Dean's concerns and complaints were coming more from Sam as a brother, as someone who was keeping secrets from him.  Dean didn't attack Sam's character, call him evil, in fact, he made a point to say that the changes in Sam had nothing to do with the demon blood or being psychic, that it had more to do with Sam not caring about Dean's feelings, about not being honest with him. Now, I give that Dean's reactions to Sam's openness in the past haven't always been fair and sometimes been judgmental, but Dean's accusations were met with defiance and contempt by Sam and I thought Sam's reaction was not only unfair, but scary in its contempt.

"Well, I don't know when it happened. Maybe when I was in Hell. Maybe when I was staring right at you, but the Sam I knew, he's gone."

"That so?"

"It's not the demon blood or the psychic crap.  It's the little stuff. The lies, the secrets."

"Yeh, what secrets?"

"The phone calls to Ruby for one."

"So I need your say so to make a phone call?"

"That's the point.  You're hiding things from me! What else aren't you telling me?"

"None of your business." 

"See what I mean? We used to be in this together. We used to have each other's backs!"

"Okay, fine.  You want to know why I didn't tell you about Ruby and how we're hunting down Lillith? Because you're too weak to go after her, Dean. You're holding me back.  I'm a better hunter than you are, stronger, smarter. I can take out demons you're too scared to go near."

"That's crap."

"You're too busy sitting around feeling sorry for yourself, whining about all the souls you tortured in Hell.  Boo hoo."



This was a painful exchange.  There is so much pain and bitterness in these words. I gave fair warning about my DeanGirl moment so here goes.  I was SO MAD at Sam.  I can get that what Dean was saying might sound like a parent scolding their child for misbehaving, but when you hear Sam's contempt, his utter superiority complex towards Dean, you can't help, but understand why Dean feels the way he does. Sam is being downright cruel here. Even if you can see that Dean might be wallowing a little, how can he not? How can Sam even imagine what he went through and how can he call it whining? It's almost as if Sam were saying, "So, you tortured some souls, big deal" as if Dean shouldn't feel guilty or  just get over it like what he went through was equal to something as insignificant as shoplifting?  Sam's tone made it sound like he was almost condoning what Dean did in Hell, that the "big deal" was more like he was saying the souls deserved what they got, that Dean's guilt was a waste of time and energy.  Even more irking for me is that Sam feels Dean's guilt and pain was a sign of weakness. That Dean is weak because he felt that guilt.  I also can't get behind that just because Dean doesn't want to actively go after Lillith, it makes him weak.  Sam is the one with the need for payback, he's the one with the tunnel-visioned mission to destroy Lillith. Doesn't that make Sam's reason for going after her worse? He made "clothe" the pursuit of her as taking her out of the picture so she can't break the 66 seals and let Lucifer rise, but I think that Sam wants to kill her, just to prove that he can, that he's more powerful than even her.

The scariest part was Sam's declaration of being a better hunter, that he was stronger and smarter than Dean.  Read between the lines, there's this really chilling undercurrent of Sam saying that he is not only a better hunter than Dean, but better period.  There's an arrogance that is growing like a cancer in Sam, a perceived notion that because he has the power of life and death over humans and demons, he is now better than his brother and likely everything else.  It hurt to see that.  I saw Dean's accusations as all about the human factor. He even says that Sam's changed, but not because of the demon blood or the psychic stuff, but that he's changed from a human perspective. Dean sees Sam's little betrayals from a purely human angle, the lies, the secrets. Still according to Ruby, there are certain inherent demon behaviors like manipulation, maybe Sam's behavior is an evolution from being human to acting more like a demon. It certainly felt that way.

The scariest foreshadowing of all was Sam saying, "You're not standing in my way anymore."  This is a threat if there ever was one. It also speaks of maybe Sam's long suppressed need to rebel.  First their dad and now Dean. Sam has never liked being told what to do, never liked being told that his only choice was to go into the family business.  Criss Angel is a Douche Bag and After School Special both touched upon Sam's need to escape the hunting life in one way or another, whether it was not to grow old doing it or to be told that he could do anything he wanted like Mr. Wyatt did.  There is an almost innocent need to escape because deep down Sam still has hope for another life. What Sam thinks that life is and what he will eventually achieve are the real questions.

Dean has squashed his hope for that. Doesn't mean he doesn't want that hope or that life, Dream a Little Dream of Me demonstrated that, but he's accepted that he can't allow himself that hope because he knows, at least speaking for himself, that he can't give up the life he lives, that maybe a part of him doesn't want to because he is saving lives. Before going to Hell, it was all about saving people, after it, it's not so much that alone anymore.  I think he now believes he can't  give up the life or saving people even more so because of what he's done in Hell, that he has to keep on atoning for as long as he can.  

You can't help but feel the darkness behind Sam's statement about standing in his way, that Dean might not be able to stop Sam when all is said and done at the end of it all. The fight between them could definitely foreshadow yet another more serious confrontation later where it's not just about brother against brother, but good versus evil and where Sam and Dean stand on that. Where Dean just might be looking down at Sam with some kind of weapon in his hand, only instead of being influenced by someone else, he'll be just Dean facing down his brother who's let his darkness envelope him and Dean facing having to kill him.  

The idea breaks my heart into pieces.

This was a wonderful episode and deftly leaves us sufficiently hanging until March 5 to get more answers. I'm probably horribly wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but I  fear for Dean's mission ahead because I think that though a showdown with Sam would be the ultimate confrontation, leaving him with the worst possible scenario, that of killing Sam, I also see Dean's fate just as uncertain.  Now that we know that he tortured souls in Hell and liked it, how does that knowledge play into his future? 

A lot of emphasis has been made over the seasons about Sam's fate.  In a way, it's almost like we've been prepared for the potential of an evil Sam, a Sam gone bad, but up until Dean went to Hell, Dean's future has been just about saving Sam, protecting Sam, keeping him alive.  Since leaving Sam, Sam was left "unprotected" from the the dark influences, both within himself and by Ruby. You can't help but think that if Dean had been alive, he might have kept Sam on course. No guarantees, of course, but it's what we would have hoped would have happened (least this DeanGirl would have -- hee). After all, when Sam tried to make a deal, the crossroads demon so much as said that they had Dean right where they wanted him and that no deal was ever going to be made to trade the brothers' fates.  That declaration can be taken two ways. The obvious is removing Dean's influence over Sam, thus allowing Sam to be seduced quicker and easier.  The less obvious might be that Dean's time in Hell was expressly used to break him as he eventually was. That maybe his time and experience in Hell might be a set up for another dark fate for Dean. Maybe knowing that as Ruby said, Hell breaks everyone eventually, even the seemingly indomitable Dean Winchester, keeping Dean in Hell might somehow work for their purposes in the Apocalypse.  I believe this latter theory the least just because how could Alistair or anyone in Hell have known that Dean would be pulled from Hell by Castiel, or more specifically on orders from God? Still...maybe there's something I'm not seeing.  I certainly hope not, but Ruby so much as said, that once a human is broken, that human loses his humanity and becomes something else.  Outwardly, Dean seems more tormented than demon-converted, but could there be something we're not seeing yet?  Does breaking as Dean did, already doom him to a fate that maybe isn't showing up now, but could be triggered later?  One wonders, if reluctantly.

In the end, Sam was left to be seduced by Ruby. Without Dean, Ruby was able to "disguise" herself as someone who ended up being a Dean substitute (perish the thought) for Sam.  Sam said as much to Dean. Still, to what end does Ruby intend to get Sam to use his powers.  All roads in my mind leads to nothing good, but the diabolical minds of Supernatural writers might have something else in store.

Speculation is such a lovely thing.

Thanks for reading.  Hold on until March 5.  It's not too far away, at least that's what I  tell myself.


  • 1
Hey, Sophie! Nice job!

I'm not as angry with Sam as you are, but I think you have a definite point on the power-trip arrogance he displayed in his taunting of Dean. He's always had a bit of a superiority complex about his intelligence and independence - which I think might have been his internal defensive adjustment to thinking that John preferred Dean, coming up with the ways in which he was better than Dean - but I agree that the sense of control and sheer power that he's gotten from commanding demons back to Hell with his mind seems to have reinforced that in ugly ways.

I'm not nearly so concerned about a potential destiny for Dean, because I keep thinking that - for both of the brothers - human choice is going to wind up eventually being the key. I don't think that Kripke is espousing the concept of inescapable fate; he places too much emphasis on family, love, and personal choice for me to buy that the boys are doomed to wind up on opposite sides of the struggle between good and evil. I think that's too cliched for the Kripke/Singer worldview. So I still have hope for the way this story will end, although I do not doubt that it will get a lot darker, angrier, and sadder before we see the light at the end of the tunnel and determine that it isn't Hellfire.

Thanks for your comment and I like your optimism and cling to it. I also think you got it nailed on how Kripke emphasizes family, love and personal choice too much to doom our boys. Great point! I LOVE IT! I also agree with the point you excellently made about the cliched aspect of pitting the boys against each other. That hadn't even crossed my mind. You're right, it would be WAY TOO easy to do that because he'd know that fans like gullible me might be expecting it. The Kripke would much rather mess with our heads.

I DO worry about Sam and agree that he might still be carrying some resentment that he still hasn't gotten over.

I LOVE hearing from you! Thanks for your words!

Hey Soph! Signed up for an Lj account yesterday and yours is my first stop. Hope this takes. I LOVED this ep, too! Terribly, terribly hard to watch, but at least everyone's cards are on the table now. You know I am with you on Sam. After I got over my initial outrage at the venom he unleashed on his brother, I sadly had to come to the same conclusion as you-Sam is going dark. I have read so many explanations of how this could be explained away as a very human response, but I'm not buying them because of the callousness and lack of empathy or compassion that they were expressed with. I have never been able to warm to Sam. He has too many qualities that tend push my buttons of all that I find hard to take in people-most of them having to do with being immature and self-absorbed, but even *I* can't accept that Sam would be so cold and unfeeling concerning everything that Dean has been through. If the show is going to ask me to accept this as a "human response" from Sam, I may have to get my puke bucket out. I DO think Sam thinks most often in terms of *I*(much like his father), while Dean has always seemed to think more in terms of *we*(UNLIKE both of them). The single most telling thing that Dean said in that argument, IMO, was-"We used to be in this together. We used to have each other's backs." That could be the catch phrase for this entire season, if you ask me, and that, more than anything, is what I believe Dean is missing, and quite frankly, what also makes me believe(and yeah, maybe because I don't want to believe that there's any part of Sam that would want to hurt Dean this badly) that this is our first glimpse of the evil that is growing in Sam-growing with his use of the powers-the powers that have ALWAYS been Ruby's aim for Sam to develop; whether they were to save Dean or to get revenge on Lilith, or to save the world, or just to end evil itself-cut the head off the snake(a truly ridiculous argument, if Sam were really able to give this any kind of objective, coherent thought, but he can't, IMO. He is already under the influence of the powers and the need and desire to use them-like "crack"); this has been her aim-for Sam to use the demon-born powers. I expect we will see more instances when we come back of Sam finding "good" reasons to find it "necessary" to use the powers-with Ruby cheering him on in the background and Dean too "scared and weak"(in Sam's opinion)to do that. Oh, and IMO, the only thing Dean is "holding Sam back" from is the evil influence that we saw here.

HA! Too many characters for one post! Here's the rest:
I feel a break coming-a sad, but necessary break brought about by Sam's very human flaws with which he is allowing himself to be used as a tool of evil-and for me the whys and wherefores mean little-growing up is about dealing with what is in the best way possible for ALL concerned and not looking for excuses or to lay blame for why it all happened. Growing up is about realizing who REALLY has your best interests at heart(the same one who ALWAYS has); and maybe thinking more in terms of that *we*, and not *I*. Perhaps the hardest part of this one for me, and in spite of the fact that Dean has ALWAYS been there, or been ready to be there, for Sam(aside from John's death), was the realization that Sam is NOT going to be able to be there to help Dean through HIS pain-the pain of his memories of hell and all that has befallen him since he came back. As usual, Jensen in his portrayal of the guilt and sorrow and, most of all, loneliness hidden behind those famous walls of his; those same walls that he lets down only for Sam(and man, that's what hurts the most-that Sam asked for and then used Dean's opening up as a weapon against him)-the utter, utter vulnerability that Dean is feeling so far this season is making me die inside for him and I fell like I'm walking around with a pit in my stomach most of the time. I hope they will give him something good, some relief, soon.
Wading in the shallow end of the pool-the physical fight was AWESOME! LOVED how Dean at first was getting the worst of it, but then, in his trademark streetfighter way, maneuvered himself into a position to take stock of the situation and figure a way to take out an opponent who has 3-4 inches and 30-40 pounds on him-and then proceeded to use his entire body as a weapon; launched it at Sam with all of his strength and caught him between what must have felt like a hurtling missile and the door to take out the more advantageous and larger threat-"better, stronger, smarter hunter"-MY EYE!!!-YOWZA X 3!!!!

The Dean/Nick scenes were SOOOOOOO GOOD!!! From the time in the time in the car when Nick enthtralled him to the very end of the ep., I could not peel my eyes off Dean. Jensen ROCKED IT SO HARD!! in these scenes-WONDERFUL! And Dean/Nick at the strip club-*THUD* :-)
Seriously, I can't help but think of this season as the season of Beautful, Beautiful Jensen-with every ep and every scene, he just seems to get better-looking to me!! And the Ackting!!! LOVING this season! CANNOT WAIT for this hiatus to be over 4.15-4.17 look TO. DIE. FOR. Catch you again soon!

Hello again.
I'm with you. Sam has gone over the edge. He insulted his brother for being human and feel bad for the worst experience a person can live. He seems to be losing sight of his humanity.
I think that Sam's problem is that he is spoiled. All his life his father and brother considered him special, the family's motto was "protect Sam", all their life; even John's last words to his older son were about Sam. For the little time we could see her, it seemed to me that Jessica mothered him, she acts a bit like a proud mother with him. And he is intelligent ans very successful in his academic life. I always found him a little big headed, since the very first episode. But then it could be forgiven, he was very young, and then he suffered a terrible loss, and he was the baby of the family.
But now he has cruel to his brother, the same man who spend the most part of his life caring for him, in some moment living for him, and finally dying for him. Dean is in his lowest now, his always poor shelf-steam is beyond low and I think that he is more that a little depressed, in the clinic sense. Sam used Dean's pain and remorse, his very humanity, against him. And he insulted the only things Dean has taken pride on: his hunter abilities and his place in Sam's life. Sam plainly tells him that he is good for nothing in both areas. Way to go, Sammy, good to kick a man when he is down.
About your fear about Dean's destiny, I fear for his life, but not for his soul. I don't see anything in the show to think that he can go darkside. It appears to me that he is suffering depression, but he is fighting, he is working hard in the family business of saving people and hunting things. Even if his wording is angry in this episode, he shows concern for Sam, he has compassion for the victims and he risked the angels' rage to save the people of that city. He can be scared and unsure, but even with all his flaws and defects his acts are that of a good man. That he suffers guilt and remorse and he doesn't look for excuses is a clue too. It would be incoherent and a bad excuse for a surprise to turn him only for effect. I still trust the writers not to do that. I'd like to share with you an idea that came to my mind when I knew that Dean has gone to hell (besides how could you, you mean writers, of course). It was that you use fire to forge a weapon. I always liked this say, and I thought it was perfect for the case. I think that hellfire finished the work that was started by the fire that killed his mother, and that he was saved to be a weapon against the demons. Using another LOTR bad metaphor, when the time has come the broken sword has been reforged to fight the Enemy. To be used by the angels, perhaps?
As always, please excuse my language mistakes and Thank you very much for your great comment. It's always a pleasure to read you.
Almu

It broke open a floodgate already brimming with suppressed feelings that was destined to spill eventually and in a strange way, it was a relief when it finally happened.

I agree, it's something they've been building up to for a while, and it was almost a relief to finally hear them say how they feel, even if it was hard to hear.

Okay, don't hit me Sam fans because I'm not saying that some of what Sam said wasn't true, that Sam's view of Dean holding him back isn't all together wrong, one can totally see that Dean's protectiveness of Sam might be viewed as suffocating, but from the perspective Sam was attacking Dean from was unfair.

I agree!!!! That reminds, lol, I caught up on BuddyTV articles earlier, and they called Dean weak because unlike Sam, he's not willing to do anything to win. Oh, that bugged me! I see that as a strength, not a weakness. Sam might be willing to do anything to win, but ALL he seems to care about is winning. Dean is able to look past winning to the potential cost... what good is winning if they become what they were fighting in the first place?

You knew that Sam meant much more than just the simple words he was saying. There was this edge to it as if to say that he could "squash" Dean like a bug.

I LOVED this point. That's the PERFECT way to put it! That's exactly what Sam's attitude was.

...but Dean's accusations were met with defiance and contempt by Sam and I thought Sam's reaction was not only unfair, but scary in its contempt.

Again, so well put! It is frightening.

Even if you can see that Dean might be wallowing a little, how can he not? How can Sam even imagine what he went through and how can he call it whining? It's almost as if Sam were saying, "So, you tortured some souls, big deal" as if Dean shouldn't feel guilty or just get over it like what he went through was equal to something as insignificant as shoplifting?

No kidding! That's exactly what it felt like, and I think that's what shocked me the most. It shows an absolutely uncaring attitude towards Dean and to the souls he hurt, like he believe that it didn't matter at all, that Dean's pathetic for feeling so much regret.

I also can't get behind that just because Dean doesn't want to actively go after Lillith, it makes him weak.

Me neither! I've never thought of Dean not wanting to go after Lillith as weakness, but caution. They got shredded (literally in Dean's case...*winces*) the last time they went after her, and she does want Sam dead in a big way, and Dean probably too, now, since he's the one that got away... Going after her when they aren't ready and when they're still so uncertain of each other is a sure-fire way to get killed.

The scariest part was Sam's declaration of being a better hunter, that he was stronger and smarter than Dean. Read between the lines, there's this really chilling undercurrent of Sam saying that he is not only a better hunter than Dean, but better period. There's an arrogance that is growing like a cancer in Sam, a perceived notion that because he has the power of life and death over humans and demons, he is now better than his brother and likely everything else.

Totally!!!! That's seems to be Sam's attitude in a nutshell.

Still according to Ruby, there are certain inherent demon behaviors like manipulation, maybe Sam's behavior is an evolution from being human to acting more like a demon. It certainly felt that way.

It really did! The things he's been saying are getting darker and more cruel, and I have a bad feeling, it will only get worse.

After all, when Sam tried to make a deal, the crossroads demon so much as said that they had Dean right where they wanted him and that no deal was ever going to be made to trade the brothers' fates. That declaration can be taken two ways.

Like I said over IM, I with you completely on the fact that I can't really picture Dean turning evil, but it does make you wonder if maybe evil Sam is TOO obvious...

Well, I guess we just have to wait to find out... *paces*

At least we have lots of fun speculation to keep us occupied. :D

AWESOME blog as always!

-Laughter

Great points and comments

Sorry for being so late in replying back to those who commented recently. I really hate being busy, hee! It keeps me away from stuff I love like this.

Arafel, my fellow DeanGirl extraordinaire!!! Great to see you here and I LOVED that it took you 2 parts to comment. You are the bomb! I can count on you to defend Dean to the death like me.

"I have read so many explanations of how this could be explained away as a very human response, but I'm not buying them because of the callousness and lack of empathy or compassion that they were expressed with."

--Me too! I recently heard from someone reviewing one of my stories (because I dared defended Dean in it) saying that Dean was just as mean for calling Sam not his brother anymore and I said, "Wait! Whoa!" Dean said Sam wasn't the brother he knew and that's true. Sorry, can't rationale or even make equal what Sam said to Dean versus what Dean said to Sam.

"I DO think Sam thinks most often in terms of *I*(much like his father), while Dean has always seemed to think more in terms of *we*(UNLIKE both of them).

--I SO AGREE!! It's what makes Dean so special.

"Oh, and IMO, the only thing Dean is "holding Sam back" from is the evil influence that we saw here."

--Hear! Hear! I'm with YOU!

"Wading in the shallow end of the pool-the physical fight was AWESOME! LOVED how Dean at first was getting the worst of it, but then, in his trademark streetfighter way, maneuvered himself into a position to take stock of the situation and figure a way to take out an opponent who has 3-4 inches and 30-40 pounds on him-and then proceeded to use his entire body as a weapon;"

--I'm there with you. It was slick peace of choreography and I was glad Dean won. Hee!

Almu: Thank you for always consistently being there with your comments. Always a welcome sight. I agree with your comments!

"He insulted his brother for being human and feel bad for the worst experience a person can live."

-- I totally agree and in the past, Sam has always advocated for humanity and now he can't even seem to do that much for his own brother.


"But now he has cruel to his brother, the same man who spend the most part of his life caring for him, in some moment living for him, and finally dying for him. "

--LOVED what you said here. It's so true and I loved your point about Sam being spoiled. He is totally acting like a spoiled brat right now.

"He can be scared and unsure, but even with all his flaws and defects his acts are that of a good man. That he suffers guilt and remorse and he doesn't look for excuses is a clue too."

--*thud - sound of me fainting. I LOVED this!

"It was that you use fire to forge a weapon. I always liked this say, and I thought it was perfect for the case. I think that hellfire finished the work that was started by the fire that killed his mother, and that he was saved to be a weapon against the demons."

--AWESOME! AWESOME POINT!!!! There have been many references to Dean as a forged weapon and your connection to fire and flames from his mom's death to Hell is perfect and spot on!

I've gone long so Part 2 next.

Re: Great points and comments

Here's part 2:


Laughter: My dearest friend, thank goodness you are back online. I have missed your comments and wisdom.

I'm glad that you and I are on the same page about Dean.

"Dean is able to look past winning to the potential cost... what good is winning if they become what they were fighting in the first place?"

--I SO HATED BuddyTV's point too. And I LOVE what you said about how Dean is looking at the big picture. If you lose your humanity or worse yet, someone you love, does winning make it all better? I think not. Loss might be inevitable, but there are ways to win without giving up who you are. AWESOME!


"They got shredded (literally in Dean's case...*winces*) the last time they went after her"

--I giggled here a little. I think I'm a bad person, hee!


"Going after her when they aren't ready and when they're still so uncertain of each other is a sure-fire way to get killed."

--SO TRUE! Sam wants to rush in and it's Dean who's being wary and strategic and rightfully so.

"Like I said over IM, I with you completely on the fact that I can't really picture Dean turning evil, but it does make you wonder if maybe evil Sam is TOO obvious..."

--after seeing the trailer/teaser for Death Takes a Holiday, where it's shown that Dean is torturing Alistair and seems to be enjoying it as Castiel says in it, "Doing God's work" with a tag that says, "When Good fails, Evil must be met with a greater evil", you think it's Sam they're talking about, but you can't help but wonder if they mean Dean with his newfound skills.

Awesome! Man, they are killing me! March 12???? As Dean would say, "SERIOUSLY?"

Thanks everyone!

P.S. One point I forgot to make in my blog (I was too wrapped up in the angst and forgot about it) was how much I LOVED Dean's comment about the Odyssey. I DIED laughing when he not only knew what Sam was talking about, but actually referenced the Odyssey and said, "Hey, I read". This English major was tickled beyond belief! It showed that Dean is smart.





  • 1